tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post4989542027365579936..comments2023-09-14T01:40:03.927-06:00Comments on Peggy Eddleman: Will Write For Cookies: Joss Has a Theory: When It Doesn't WorkPeggy Eddlemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10241451940725996650noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-24243573375027837682014-09-11T12:35:47.714-06:002014-09-11T12:35:47.714-06:00I adore Joss and I completely agree. My own weird ...I adore Joss and I completely agree. My own weird method is to cut my favorite parts (in smaller amounts) while I'm writing the first 'straight-through' draft of a chapter. It usually helps me avoid anything larger cropping up that starts to dominate the story in a bad way.JTCamlynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11127948676666066685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-28883284461128445362012-10-19T09:23:45.803-06:002012-10-19T09:23:45.803-06:00This is excellent advice. "Killing your darli...This is excellent advice. "Killing your darlings" is one thing. It's still a little vague. But killing your favorite part? Well, we all know what that means, and that is terrifying. I love it. Christine Tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08711726941768571495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-65242999857828461452012-07-31T09:54:24.820-06:002012-07-31T09:54:24.820-06:00Though it sucks, this does seem like sound advice....Though it sucks, this does seem like sound advice. It is hard though, especially when you have some stellar sentences in that. At PNWA last year, they told us, to REMOVE parts, but not delete them. Have a file that's all "this is crap" and hunt and scavenge. Most of the time you can find another place to put sentences, if not whole scenes that actually work (whether it's with this story, or another)Lynn(e) Schmidthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13111991752818662608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-6613647965001484422011-10-27T05:56:06.765-06:002011-10-27T05:56:06.765-06:00Yes, I know this one and it works. When writing po...Yes, I know this one and it works. When writing poems I can get stuck and I now know that its either because there is too much background setting or I am trying to shoe horn something in that will not fit, usually because I am enamoured with the idea. Took me years to realise this.Paul Tobinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14732771806819029077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-6851926626341546242011-10-26T07:41:21.276-06:002011-10-26T07:41:21.276-06:00*tears running down my cheeks*
All the Joss love ...*tears running down my cheeks*<br /><br />All the Joss love here warms my heart. :)<br /><br />And I am impressed! So many of you have made SO MANY PAINFUL CHANGES in your manuscripts! You deserve a big pat on the back. Really. That's incredible. Good on you!Peggy Eddlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10241451940725996650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-32346695270526823052011-10-26T07:10:26.189-06:002011-10-26T07:10:26.189-06:00Well, you had me at Joss (LOVE)! It's kind of ...Well, you had me at Joss (LOVE)! It's kind of like the kill your darlings theory and I definitely think there's a life's lesson in there somewhere too. BRILLIANT!Christina Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01799776834213400246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-48879762609382377102011-10-26T06:56:21.170-06:002011-10-26T06:56:21.170-06:00You know, I never thought of this, but I think you...You know, I never thought of this, but I think you're on to something. If you cling, the rest has to bend. But oh! the pain of cutting your favorites :( !Susanna Leonard Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17655630528649780363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-47597382191738826262011-10-26T06:00:03.526-06:002011-10-26T06:00:03.526-06:00Love this advice. We must be self-aware enough to ...Love this advice. We must be self-aware enough to know what doesn't work, and go to extremes to make it work. We have to let go of our ego--ourselves, and sacrifice for the piece. Awesome advice!Heather Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06699360166269376285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-5940851895050379482011-10-26T05:35:37.010-06:002011-10-26T05:35:37.010-06:00Have heard of this but never practiced it. I"...Have heard of this but never practiced it. I"m in such a stuck-mode with my current work I should look at this piece of advice.<br />Because this post says it all--sometimes it just doesn't work.Lindihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06109206610786414955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-15625328980670712552011-10-26T04:55:57.759-06:002011-10-26T04:55:57.759-06:00I've tested this theory, and I was heartbroken...I've tested this theory, and I was heartbroken when it turned out to be right! Keeping your favourite part means you're doing things you shouldn't to keep it -- take it out, and the story can go exactly where it should. It also works on a smaller scale -- sometimes I just have to take out a joke I love, and in doing so, I cut out all the laborious lead up to it.Amie Kaufmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15116472165351759477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-85769095885372873972011-10-25T23:54:32.738-06:002011-10-25T23:54:32.738-06:00It's one of those good hurts. :)It's one of those good hurts. :)Jennie Bennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17331827076858223497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-85042321621570836222011-10-25T22:59:35.688-06:002011-10-25T22:59:35.688-06:00OH MY GOSH, yes. And it feels like someone is carv...OH MY GOSH, yes. And it feels like someone is carving my heart out WITH A FORK!<br /><br />Oh, well. At least afterwards, when I'm lying on the ground, bleeding to death, everything starts making sense :D<br /><br />Gosh. Sorry to be so morbid. I think I've been playing too many video games...Bklosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15445205221951596010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-62951046094277070512011-10-25T22:27:44.150-06:002011-10-25T22:27:44.150-06:00As horrible as cutting out your favourite scene so...As horrible as cutting out your favourite scene sounds, it's probably the best advice I've heard in a long time. I get so caught up thinking that a certain scene is so good that I'll try and work it in no matter how improbably or illogical. Joss really is a genius. I remember this episode. Gunn was so funny when he cried.Lanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00002224549199474383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-83191519919942542952011-10-25T21:35:59.917-06:002011-10-25T21:35:59.917-06:00Brilliant! Wow, I've never heard this before, ...Brilliant! Wow, I've never heard this before, but even now I'm reviewing problem spots in my MS and I know that's the reason. Thank you. I am new to your blog and appreciated your comments on my post, at Live to Write. Thanks for your support and congrats on your writing accomplishments!Sara Bullahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01062844172482215376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-31361239547973827302011-10-25T19:38:30.936-06:002011-10-25T19:38:30.936-06:00I just had to do that! I cut my opening scene whic...I just had to do that! I cut my opening scene which I loved and felt was my biggest hook and I cut scenes through out I loved. I'm now rewriting but I really think it was for the best b/c it allowed better ideas to come.Laura Paulinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06503090226508079501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-11369859692241609252011-10-25T17:34:30.003-06:002011-10-25T17:34:30.003-06:00Sooooo true.
I feel like I end up removing one of...Sooooo true.<br /><br />I feel like I end up removing one of my favorite parts from EVERYTHING I write. It's SO hard to do.Jolene Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14809468564016928636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-76046519474703279362011-10-25T17:04:53.096-06:002011-10-25T17:04:53.096-06:00It's an amazing but true theory, as I learned ...It's an amazing but true theory, as I learned as a news journalist. And it holds true for fiction writing, I've learned the hard way ...Michelle Fayardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05323853315988838877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-53204440200204126812011-10-25T15:16:50.070-06:002011-10-25T15:16:50.070-06:00This is seriously profound.
"And if everyth...This is seriously profound. <br /><br />"And if everything is all bent and warped, then more than likely things are not going to turn out well."<br /><br />So, I hope he put in on YouTube. =DDonna K. Weaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15763832177263927311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-87712625739433517882011-10-25T15:00:26.119-06:002011-10-25T15:00:26.119-06:00The nearest I've come to this is at the start ...The nearest I've come to this is at the start of my current WIP.<br />It started too early. In the first edit, I cut out three quarters of the first chapter, and only had to add a few lines to fill in the gaps.<br />Having said that, I think it probably still starts too early, and I'm going to have to do it again in the next edit during NaNoReviMo.Iainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09189124199119851897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-77802194286273664862011-10-25T14:58:21.619-06:002011-10-25T14:58:21.619-06:00I have removed some of my favorite parts of a scen...I have removed some of my favorite parts of a scene, and it hurts every time. Yet the end result is a scene that makes more sense, and it is, dare I say, better off having "died in a fire." Some of my best scenes rose up out of the ashes left.Emily R. Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03892444969625637064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-33105602009308203422011-10-25T14:29:43.507-06:002011-10-25T14:29:43.507-06:00I did this with my MG fantasy, and I think it work...I did this with my MG fantasy, and I think it worked. So crazy, but true. <br /><br />Awesome post--as always :)Crazy Life of a Writing Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16064939499412649850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-49430184351902676722011-10-25T14:17:50.726-06:002011-10-25T14:17:50.726-06:00Lol, quirky post:) Major props to givind praise to...Lol, quirky post:) Major props to givind praise to Joss Whedon!Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01793077012143289985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-46811831765872252272011-10-25T14:08:40.348-06:002011-10-25T14:08:40.348-06:00Awesome and painful advice but very enlightening! ...Awesome and painful advice but very enlightening! Thanks, Peggy. I needed your post today.Taffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11796711977284429278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-50118558482496481902011-10-25T13:22:09.647-06:002011-10-25T13:22:09.647-06:00Ah, how I love Joss Whedon. Very interesting. I ...Ah, how I love Joss Whedon. Very interesting. I know that I'm guilty of trying to force a situation, just so that a character can say a particular line, and the result is awkward and off. I'm new to your blog, and am looking forward to reading more!Stephaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00420841652300294215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4314030690340539256.post-84141908919017058802011-10-25T13:04:33.211-06:002011-10-25T13:04:33.211-06:00WOW! This took me a minute to digest. He is right ...WOW! This took me a minute to digest. He is right though, if it isn't working that's probably the answer.Jenny S. Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00482342313938669366noreply@blogger.com